D-Bol 50's and Test 400

Jimmyba1a · 03-09-2009, 03:29 PM

6'4
250lbs
18%bf
Max 350 bench
3x3 @305
Lifting 2 years steady
36 years old

ran a recent d-bol only cycle for 20 days
1-7 @ 25mg
8-17 @ 50mg
18-20 @25mg

reasonable gains in strength and size...no side effects..small enogh cycle to not be noticed in the gym unless you were paying close attention

my buddy suggested running TEST 400 with d-bol

D-Bol 25mg ED for 30 days
TEST once a week for 10 weeks

start 400 and d-bol on same day

im not looking to get huge as im already a naturally big man. looking to increase strength and size before hitting the cardio to trim for summer...

any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated!

jimmyba1a

"6 for show, 2 to grow!"

JdFlex · 03-13-2009, 12:55 AM

Did you run any PCT after the dbol only cycle?

If I were going to run test I would stick with test e or c, not 400, but that's just me. To each their own.

I've run a few cycles in my day and never really saw great gains from test, they were always mediocre. Deca on the other hand, that was some good stuff, in my opinion. Great gains every time I used it. Stacking test with dbol though would make nice strength gains.

***The OJ*** · 03-13-2009, 09:40 AM

Yeah but like the guy said, he didnt wanna get huge, maybe you wanna look into something more like equipose/tren/var/winnie type cycles?

As you will be able to gain lean muscle more without gaining any noticeable bloat. I have always thought test 400 to be painful due to amount of ba in it, what brand is it?

If you wanna do a longer more serious cycle then let us know and we can help you work it out.

If you really just want advice on what you have already then test 400@1ml or 1.25ml per week + 40mg dbol for first 30 days would be fine, I would make sure you have nolva on hand incase of gyno and for pct, thats about it. You could if its no expense spared include either proviron 50mg or anastrozole .5-1mg on a daily basis if you find your really gyno prone

hth

bulldog · 03-14-2009, 12:57 AM

As already stated that T400 hurts pretty bad.

Jimmyba1a · 03-15-2009, 11:54 PM

I got the 400 (univet) and the dbol going now...took my first stick of 1mg on the 400...had to sleep on a heating pad for 2 days...holy crap!..its thick too. I did not cut it with anything.

im a walking hard on and im almost 37...i guess that is the 400 kicking in.

I will keep yo posted. I have nolva and was gonna run it PCT..should i run it WITH the other 2 or just PCT.

Thanks for the advice....and I will keep you posted on progress. I did find it easier to push 315 on the bench yesterday but failed at 330.

Thanks for the advice on stacks....$$ isnt an issue so i want to do the best i can...i just feel the guy i get it from may not be advising me the best. Thats why i am here. Thanks!

***The OJ*** · 03-16-2009, 09:31 AM

For the nolva, just keep it close by incase you get sore nips then start taking it at 40mg daily till it goes down then carry on maintain at 20mg daily, if it doesnt go away at 40 then try 60, you will find everyone is different.

best of luck

Jimmyba1a · 03-21-2009, 01:35 AM

Thank you....the 3rd stick of the 400 was much less painful than the first 2. I went a bit deeper with it and seem to be tolerating it better. No side affects cept very, very ,very mild acne..... I do not feel any type of "rage" or overwhelming snsation to go work out, but i do get a great pump form my workouts and am lifting a bit heavier.

COnsidering dropping the oral d-bol though.....my kidneys are KILLING ME....low back pain is constant and i tink it is from the orals.

Can i start a winny/tren if i drop the d-bol....

or should i finish the 400 and then start a new cycle incorporating the winny/tren into it?

***The OJ*** · 03-21-2009, 11:08 AM

how long into it are you now? i always say probably best unless your experienced to not swap things in between cos it takes times for changes to take effect and if you keep swapping and changing all the time you never learn what works and what doesnt but saying that, the dbol does cause alot of lower back pains, are you drinking lots of water? 4-5ltrs?

you could swap for tren/winnie which is something totally different, which tren do you have? how many weeks in are you now?

***Narkissos*** · 03-21-2009, 12:21 PM

I don't think tren would be a good swap if he's already getting serious lower-back pumps.

I'm curious about his water intake as well.

Jimmyba1a · 03-21-2009, 01:14 PM

roughly 120 ounces of water (4 liters) but some days its hard to drink that much...gonna increase today if i can.

I am now 2.5 weeks in.

I took .5cc day 1, .5cc day 4, and 1cc, on day 7 and intend to do 1cc every 6 days of the Univet 400.

The dbol is taken at 12.5 2 times a day for a total of 25mg.

My back is killing me and it seriously feels like kidney pain and not musle pain.

I have not picked up any tren or winny, but can get it. I do not know the brand yet but will ask and post.

So, to answer, i am just over 2 weeks in. The 400 is crazy good on the sex life.

Is there a place i can post pics?..I am happy to show my progress and where im starting from.

03-09-2009, 03:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jimmyba1a New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, TN Posts: 6	D-Bol 50's and Test 400 6'4 250lbs 18%bf Max 350 bench 3x3 @305 Lifting 2 years steady 36 years old ran a recent d-bol only cycle for 20 days 1-7 @ 25mg 8-17 @ 50mg 18-20 @25mg reasonable gains in strength and size...no side effects..small enogh cycle to not be noticed in the gym unless you were paying close attention my buddy suggested running TEST 400 with d-bol D-Bol 25mg ED for 30 days TEST once a week for 10 weeks start 400 and d-bol on same day im not looking to get huge as im already a naturally big man. looking to increase strength and size before hitting the cardio to trim for summer... any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated! jimmyba1a "6 for show, 2 to grow!"

03-21-2009, 12:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
*Narkissos* Resident Knee-Grow Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Barbados Posts: 3,388	I don't think tren would be a good swap if he's already getting serious lower-back pumps. I'm curious about his water intake as well. __________________ Contest Prep. Queries: http://www.getnarked.net/forum/index.php

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

03-13-2009, 12:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
JdFlex J-didn't Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New England Posts: 2,474	Did you run any PCT after the dbol only cycle? If I were going to run test I would stick with test e or c, not 400, but that's just me. To each their own. I've run a few cycles in my day and never really saw great gains from test, they were always mediocre. Deca on the other hand, that was some good stuff, in my opinion. Great gains every time I used it. Stacking test with dbol though would make nice strength gains.

03-13-2009, 09:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
*The OJ* The MAN Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Everywhere Posts: 4,825	Yeah but like the guy said, he didnt wanna get huge, maybe you wanna look into something more like equipose/tren/var/winnie type cycles? As you will be able to gain lean muscle more without gaining any noticeable bloat. I have always thought test 400 to be painful due to amount of ba in it, what brand is it? If you wanna do a longer more serious cycle then let us know and we can help you work it out. If you really just want advice on what you have already then test 400@1ml or 1.25ml per week + 40mg dbol for first 30 days would be fine, I would make sure you have nolva on hand incase of gyno and for pct, thats about it. You could if its no expense spared include either proviron 50mg or anastrozole .5-1mg on a daily basis if you find your really gyno prone hth

03-14-2009, 12:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
bulldog Vet Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 833	As already stated that T400 hurts pretty bad.

03-15-2009, 11:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jimmyba1a New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, TN Posts: 6	I got the 400 (univet) and the dbol going now...took my first stick of 1mg on the 400...had to sleep on a heating pad for 2 days...holy crap!..its thick too. I did not cut it with anything. im a walking hard on and im almost 37...i guess that is the 400 kicking in. I will keep yo posted. I have nolva and was gonna run it PCT..should i run it WITH the other 2 or just PCT. Thanks for the advice....and I will keep you posted on progress. I did find it easier to push 315 on the bench yesterday but failed at 330. Thanks for the advice on stacks....$$ isnt an issue so i want to do the best i can...i just feel the guy i get it from may not be advising me the best. Thats why i am here. Thanks!

03-16-2009, 09:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
*The OJ* The MAN Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Everywhere Posts: 4,825	For the nolva, just keep it close by incase you get sore nips then start taking it at 40mg daily till it goes down then carry on maintain at 20mg daily, if it doesnt go away at 40 then try 60, you will find everyone is different. best of luck

03-21-2009, 01:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jimmyba1a New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, TN Posts: 6	Thank you....the 3rd stick of the 400 was much less painful than the first 2. I went a bit deeper with it and seem to be tolerating it better. No side affects cept very, very ,very mild acne..... I do not feel any type of "rage" or overwhelming snsation to go work out, but i do get a great pump form my workouts and am lifting a bit heavier. COnsidering dropping the oral d-bol though.....my kidneys are KILLING ME....low back pain is constant and i tink it is from the orals. Can i start a winny/tren if i drop the d-bol.... or should i finish the 400 and then start a new cycle incorporating the winny/tren into it?

03-21-2009, 11:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
*The OJ* The MAN Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Everywhere Posts: 4,825	how long into it are you now? i always say probably best unless your experienced to not swap things in between cos it takes times for changes to take effect and if you keep swapping and changing all the time you never learn what works and what doesnt but saying that, the dbol does cause alot of lower back pains, are you drinking lots of water? 4-5ltrs? you could swap for tren/winnie which is something totally different, which tren do you have? how many weeks in are you now?

03-21-2009, 01:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jimmyba1a New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, TN Posts: 6	roughly 120 ounces of water (4 liters) but some days its hard to drink that much...gonna increase today if i can. I am now 2.5 weeks in. I took .5cc day 1, .5cc day 4, and 1cc, on day 7 and intend to do 1cc every 6 days of the Univet 400. The dbol is taken at 12.5 2 times a day for a total of 25mg. My back is killing me and it seriously feels like kidney pain and not musle pain. I have not picked up any tren or winny, but can get it. I do not know the brand yet but will ask and post. So, to answer, i am just over 2 weeks in. The 400 is crazy good on the sex life. Is there a place i can post pics?..I am happy to show my progress and where im starting from.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)