Need help with EQ

[Palmer]

First and foremost, i would like to hear some of your first hand experiences with Equipoise... I would also like your input on running Equipoise without test. Ya ya I know its a huge no no as with most compounds, but im kind of between a rock and a hard place right now. My guy got pinched (Sucks!) I intended on my next cycle to run as follows:
Weeks
1-15 Test E at 500mg/week
1-15 EQ at 400mg/Week
1-4 Dbol at 40mg/ED
17-20 PCT w/Clomid/Nolva
Now i have Dbol, winny, and EQ on hand, was waiting for my test and things went down hill. If i cant come across any test, If i do end up just running EQ and Dbol, how bad could i expect my sex drive to crash, and also what other side effects would i expect, and what could i expect to gain?Question two: I do find a hookup and get my test, should i be running hcg?? If so at what dose?

[Narkissos]

I hardly ever run test to be honest. (I run tren alone, winstrol alone.. etc. Never a problem)

But I'm not you.

What doesn't affect me negatively may affect you negatively.

What is your experience with Equipoise?

Also, Do you have access to proviron?

-C

[Swellin]

EQ doesn't do much of anything for me. I love it for what little it does though. I run it when cutting for a fight. I run it at a high dose, and the only test I use is for TRT...120mg per week.

I run the eq in excess of 800mg per week for 12-16 weeks. I benefit from the increased cardio capacity and vascularity, as well as the connective tissue benefit. I also run gh with it.

As far as hcg goes, I am a bit lost on the subject ...all of a sudden.
I used it to help keep my system functioning to some degree, but now I am not sure that I got any benefit from it at 500iu twice a week. Currently, I'm on 1000iu 3xW and in 6 weeks with no AAS (including TRT), my test levels are back in the normal range. Many endocrinologists recommend 2000 iu 3xW. I did that for the first two weeks until my new prescription came in and I switched it up.

Honestly, everything depends on you. The best any of us can do is speculate. Each individual reacts entirely differently to compounds and hormones. Your goals and your experiences are important in speculating how this will work.


On another note, your post is very close to being an outright source request. I suggest you ignore any of the PMs you get sent regarding sourcing. they are VERY likely to either be scammers or LEO. Currently LE represents the biggest issue. I wouldn't trust a soul out there right now.

[Palmer]

Thanks guys, good info on the HCG, ran it at 500iu 2xW last time and did'nt see much maybe i will try 1000iu 2xW.. As far as EQ, i dont have any prior experience with it, My cycles have been the classics...Test E with Dbol and Test prop with winny. Did not care for either, I got huge gains from the test E but the sides were not worth the gains in my opinion, Prop was a good cycle but i dont feel like dealing with the injection site pain, it was to a point where i couldnt train. I can probably get some proviron...Is that something youve had good experience with??

[Swellin]

I've never used Proviron before.

What sides did you get from test e that made you not want to run it?

What are your goals?

[Harry_Callahan]

Originally Posted by Swellin

EQ doesn't do much of anything for me. I love it for what little it does though. I run it when cutting for a fight. I run it at a high dose, and the only test I use is for TRT...120mg per week.

I run the eq in excess of 800mg per week for 12-16 weeks. I benefit from the increased cardio capacity and vascularity, as well as the connective tissue benefit. I also run gh with it.

As far as hcg goes, I am a bit lost on the subject ...all of a sudden.
I used it to help keep my system functioning to some degree, but now I am not sure that I got any benefit from it at 500iu twice a week. Currently, I'm on 1000iu 3xW and in 6 weeks with no AAS (including TRT), my test levels are back in the normal range. Many endocrinologists recommend 2000 iu 3xW. I did that for the first two weeks until my new prescription came in and I switched it up.

Honestly, everything depends on you. The best any of us can do is speculate. Each individual reacts entirely differently to compounds and hormones. Your goals and your experiences are important in speculating how this will work.


On another note, your post is very close to being an outright source request. I suggest you ignore any of the PMs you get sent regarding sourcing. they are VERY likely to either be scammers or LEO. Currently LE represents the biggest issue. I wouldn't trust a soul out there right now.

600 mgs a wk seems to do me right. I love EQ. Makes me a lil aggressive which I like in the gym. We race horses big time around here and its like night and day with the horses that are on and those that arent. The ones on are more muscular, veiny but they are harder to handle. Sometimes its hard to get em in the starting gate.

Swellin, I know you know your shit but Id be careful running that much HCG for a prolonged period. Ya dont want it to perm shut down your own Test production my good man. Thats JMHO......

gator

[Swellin]

Gator, maybe you missed the part about this being controlled by my endocrinologist. The deal is, I don't produce test naturally anymore. My levels are lower than that of a female. I already had low levels, but my years of AAS use have killed my own production. I am on TRT as a result. Since my wife wants another kid, I had to drop TRT because it hinders sperm production. As a result of my use of steroids and hormones, I have a ridiculously low count. Because of this, I am being monitored closely and running HCG in order to increase my endogenous testosterone and allow my body to produce sperm. In this case, hcg is being used for HRT and for fertility.

Some might feel uncomfortable with a female endocrinologist dealing with VERY male specific conditions, but I have the utmost confidence in mine. She is so intelligent that she can't even talk to normal people. My wife is a pharmacist and I am very versed in the actions of the various hormones and AAS. We left her office barely following what she said. The average person would be completely lost. lol
She is John's Hopkins and Harvard educated. At one of my appointments, she brought in a stack of research she had done for my specific situation. I've never seen a doctor put forth the outside effort that she does for me. She knows about my AAS use and has never once shaken her finger at me or judged me for it. She just wants to fix the problem. I can't speak highly enough about her.

The reason I go into such detail about her.....I am trying to get across how much confidence I have in her ability and how/why I completely support her approach and dosing. She has shown me research that you and I don't really have access to, that contradicts the norms on the steroid boards for hormone usage.

HOWEVER>>>>>>>>I certainly appreciate you pointing that out. In no way would I recommend a specific dosage without the caveat I listed above about each person being different and that I don't really know the answer. All we can do is offer our own experience and TEMPER our response with caveats regarding safety. As such, your cautioning me is exactly the sort of thing we need to see others doing. In this case, it has caused me to explain further which might make more sense to others reading along. It also serves the purpose of being a speed bump to anyone reading. It might make them STOP and THINK before doing something....which is all we can hope for.

[Syndicate]

Swellin since you've been upfront with her and shes honest with you about research... Is a long stretch to see if she would make you copies of the research papers? I understand if you don't feel like asking; but it seems the community stands to learn alot from it if it where available!

[Swellin]

I follow you. I seriously doubt she keeps any of it past the appointment. I can't imagine her keeping that stack of stuff anywhere. Next time I'll ask though.

[JdFlex]

Swell, how are things working out with your treatment? Are you making progress? Is your Dr optimistic that you will be able to generate enough sperm to reproduce or is it a longshot?

Sorry for the hijack.