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Old 10-26-2008, 08:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Gator, maybe you missed the part about this being controlled by my endocrinologist. The deal is, I don't produce test naturally anymore. My levels are lower than that of a female. I already had low levels, but my years of AAS use have killed my own production. I am on TRT as a result. Since my wife wants another kid, I had to drop TRT because it hinders sperm production. As a result of my use of steroids and hormones, I have a ridiculously low count. Because of this, I am being monitored closely and running HCG in order to increase my endogenous testosterone and allow my body to produce sperm. In this case, hcg is being used for HRT and for fertility.

Some might feel uncomfortable with a female endocrinologist dealing with VERY male specific conditions, but I have the utmost confidence in mine. She is so intelligent that she can't even talk to normal people. My wife is a pharmacist and I am very versed in the actions of the various hormones and AAS. We left her office barely following what she said. The average person would be completely lost. lol
She is John's Hopkins and Harvard educated. At one of my appointments, she brought in a stack of research she had done for my specific situation. I've never seen a doctor put forth the outside effort that she does for me. She knows about my AAS use and has never once shaken her finger at me or judged me for it. She just wants to fix the problem. I can't speak highly enough about her.

The reason I go into such detail about her.....I am trying to get across how much confidence I have in her ability and how/why I completely support her approach and dosing. She has shown me research that you and I don't really have access to, that contradicts the norms on the steroid boards for hormone usage.

HOWEVER>>>>>>>>I certainly appreciate you pointing that out. In no way would I recommend a specific dosage without the caveat I listed above about each person being different and that I don't really know the answer. All we can do is offer our own experience and TEMPER our response with caveats regarding safety. As such, your cautioning me is exactly the sort of thing we need to see others doing. In this case, it has caused me to explain further which might make more sense to others reading along. It also serves the purpose of being a speed bump to anyone reading. It might make them STOP and THINK before doing something....which is all we can hope for.
I missed that somehow my friend. I was just saying that those in a different situation with normal Test levels and how that would possibly not be the best route. I see now your point. Thanks for clearing it up.

Im old school that we only use HCG every 8-10 wks to avoid perm shutdown....not that this had anything to do with your condition.

Swell...I dont want to hijack this thread but what do you attribute you needing to be on HRT brother?

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I already had low test levels prior to ever running a cycle. By running gear, that pushed the deal into real trouble. Evidently, the signal is getting lost somewhere in my endocrine system. The endo is not sure what caused it, but she felt that prohormones at an early age (21-22) may have contributed. At the time, I ran somethings that were later removed from the market. It could have contributed, but as far as being the cause...who the hell knows.
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I already had low test levels prior to ever running a cycle. By running gear, that pushed the deal into real trouble. Evidently, the signal is getting lost somewhere in my endocrine system. The endo is not sure what caused it, but she felt that prohormones at an early age (21-22) may have contributed. At the time, I ran somethings that were later removed from the market. It could have contributed, but as far as being the cause...who the hell knows.
Gotcha big guy!

That being cleared up Id say 400-600 mgs EQ would be sweet....
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