GH PreWorkout

[unoigo]

Really curious about RedBaron's suggestion of taking a few ius of HGH preworkout with slin following postworkout. For those who use this method, how far in advance to you take in the preworkout GH? Would one still need to keep carbs away form the GH dose?

For example, my prewo protocol is.....
1.5hr prior, whey, oats
30min prior, bcaa
During, bcaa

Could I squeeze in the GH 45-60 min prior to training?

[The OJ]

mallet is probably the best person to answer you bro, im sure he will pop in soon. I take my gh in the mornings always have, so cant really advise on it this way

[Mallet]

I think taking GH pre-workout is fine if your doing the protocol you've laid out. GH is great at shuttling amino acids into the muscle, more so than insulin. However, GH is not a great anti-catabolic, insulin is much better suited for this job. The problem being, GH blunts insulin, so by taking GH pre-workout you are keeping insulin at bay and allowing the cortisol levels to rise.

My suggestion for the best bang for your buck is to take the GH pwo with your slin. I think taking a low dose of GH in the a.m will help with shuttling amino acids and possibly burn a little fat, but the PWO shot will create hyperplasia (new muscel cells) as well as hypertrophy (muscle cell enlargement) abd with the combination of slin you will get the shuttling of carbs and amino acids, as well, insulin will cause a greater amount of IGF receptors in the liver, which means after the GH has run it's course, there will be a greater conversion to IGF. You can't lose.

I seriously like your BCAA's pre-workout and during, your priming the anabolic environment for pwo, and preventing a lot of protein degradation during training. Good stuff!

[unoigo]

Thanks for the quick feedback!

I've been playing with GH for a few months now at different doses as well as different times. Here's where I'm at... I plan to shoot 3iu first thing in the am, then another 3iu either pre or pwo.

My slin protocol is a bit novel. I carb cycle both offseason and precontest. I'm currently in my offseason and the diet looks like this....

Low day (2): High Protein/ Low Carb/ Moderate Fat (On low days, cardio is done first thing in the am, 30 mins light intensity)
Medium day (3): Moderate protein/ Moderate Carb/ Low to Moderate Fat
High day (2): Low Protein/ High Carb/ No added fats (only fat is from indirect sources, i.e. oats, chicken, etc.)

Slin protocol is as follows, on the two high days (Back and Legs) 5iu Humulin - R subq 30 mins prior to meal 1, 8iu Humalog IM immediately PWO.

I've heard different opinions on this.... If I take my 2nd dose of GH PWO, should I take it immediately PWO then wait 15-20 mins to take the slin allowing the conversion of IGF or can I combine the two and take together?

Regarding GH preworkout and the issue with elevated cortisol levels, would this still be an issue with AAS supplementation? I'm currently on 750mg Test/ 300 Deca.

[Mallet]

I would take the GH and slin together pwo in the same pin. You will get a greater conversion of GH to IGF when adding in the slin.

I like the high/low days you've got laid out.

AAS will block cortisol to a decent degree, but anytime blood sugar begins to drop below normal (intense exercise depleting your stores) cortisol is released to break down proteins for energy.

If i was in the off-season i would shoot my morning GH subQ and then the pwo IM with the slin. However, if you wanted to, you could use the slin/gh combo both in the a.m when you wake up and again pwo. Shootin git IM both times. You will get a good saturation and some new cell growth for sure.

[unoigo]

Mallet - thx Bro! Definitley good feedback.

[Mallet]

Feel free to start a log in the mebers log forum and we can follow along with your progress.

Glad to have you!