Interesting read for Texas Strong and College Football Fans

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Since the inception of the BCS system in 1998 B10 vs SEC head to head:

Overall: SEC 17 B10 16
SEC Home team: SEC 4 B10 O
B10 Home team: B10 3 SEC 2
Bowl Games: B10 13 SEC 11
# of winning Bowl seasons: B10 5 SEC 2 (2 ties)
Total combined scores of all Bowl games: 609-623
When B10 is higher ranked team: 6-6
When SEC is higher ranked team: B10 5 SEC 4
When both unranked or same rank: B10 2 SEC 1

So what myths are laid to rest here?
1) The SEC owns the B10. I guess that would depend on ones definition of "owns." The B10 has the edge in head to head Bowl competetiton during the BCS era. Top to bottom SEC strength, southern speed and ill feelings still harbord from the Civil War dont mean anything. Bowl games are best teams on best teams, head to head. The B10 leads 13-11. Period.

2) The B10 is overrated. Again, don't let the facts get in the way of a good opinion. When the B10 has the higher rated team in head to head Bowl competition the record stands at 6-6. When the SEC is the higher ranked team The B10 leads 5 games to 4. When both teams are unranked(or the same rank) the B10 leads 2-1.

3) UF's win over OSU shows how much better the SEC is. My only question here is if the B12 has permanent bragging rights over the SEC from Nebraska's 62-24 beating of a previously undefeated UF in the '95 Fiesta Bowl?

Dominance? I think not. Anyone willing to look deeper than a SportsCenter sound byte can see its even at best for the SEC.


Bowls Year by year(year is for season not actually played), rankings are from AP:

1998: 2-0 B10
#15 UM 45-#11 Ark 31
#22 PSU 26-(NR) UK 14

1999: 2-1 B10
#9 MSU 37-#10 UF 34
#8 UM 35-#5 AL 34
#21 UGA 28- #19 Purdue 25

2000: 1-1
#17 UM 31-#20 Auburn 28
(NR) USC 24-#19 OSU 7

2001: 3-0 SEC
#14 USC 31-#22 OSU 28
#12 LSU 47-#7 ILL 34
#8 UT 45-#17 UM 17

2002: 2-1 B10
#12 UM 38-#22 UF 30
(NR) Minn 29-#25 Ark 14
#19 Auburn 13-#10 PSU 9

2003: 2-1 SEC
#13 Iowa 37-#17 UF 17
#11 UGA 34-#10 Purdue 27
(NR)Auburn 28-(NR)Wisky 14

2004: 2-1 B10
(NR)Minn 20-(NR)AL 16
#11 Iowa 30-#12 LSU 25
#8 UGA 24-#16 Wisky 21

2005: 1-1
#21 Wisky 24-#7 Aub 10
#16 UF 31-#25 Iowa 24

2006: 2-1 B10
#12t Wisky 17-#12t Ark 14
(NR)PSU 20-#17 UT 10
#2 UF 41-#1 OSU 14










I am so tired of hearing SEC fans say that "the second-best Pac-10 team beat the fourth-best SEC team" when Cal beat Tennessee. Is that all they got?
--Joe, Sacramento

Joe, Joe, Joe. So blissfully naïve. If there's two things I've learned during my time on this beat, it's that the SEC is positively, indisputably the greatest conference in the history of mankind, and little things like logic, facts and common sense have no bearing whatsoever on this distinction.

Tennessee beats Cal last year? Yet another feather in the SEC's cap. Cal beats Tennessee this year? Completely irrelevant. USC beats Auburn 23-0 in 2003? That wasn't one of Auburn's better teams. Auburn goes 12-0 the next year and gets left out of the BCS title game? A crime against humanity, seeing as the Tigers obviously would have beaten the Trojans. Big East champion Louisville comes within an offsides call of edging SEC champ Florida out of last year's BCS title game? Exhibit A why the whole system needs to be blown up. The fact that Big East champion West Virginia beat SEC champion Georgia in the Sugar Bowl just a year earlier? Eh -- the Dawgs weren't up for that game. Les Miles calls out USC's "soft" Pac-10 schedule? Well ... duh. But wouldn't that make SEC divisional champion Arkansas -- whom the Trojans beat 50-14 just a year earlier -- even softer? No, because Darren McFadden wasn't healthy, and he's obviously capable of producing 36 points on his own. Florida beating Ohio State like a rented mule in last year's title game? Indisputable confirmation that the Big Ten can't hold a candle to the SEC. The fact SEC teams lost their other two bowl games against Big Ten foes? Never happened.

So basically, Joe, I wouldn't waste your time with one of those futile debates. Just accept the SEC's eternal superiority for what it is and we can all go back to watching The Pick-Up Artist in peace.

I read that and had to share..

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I maintain that our bottom tier would be successful against your bottom tier. Our bottom tier SEC teams seem to regularly beat "top" SEC tier teams, and I think that this occurs so often by virtue of their squad's overall athleticism, in a manner different than - say - the Big 10, where it is rarer for your bottom dwellers to knock you top teams off.

Statistically, I think such upsets are more regular in the SEC than the Big 10, which IMO supports the overall strength of the SEC.

If this were true you would expect to see middling and bottom SEC teams come up with at least occasional wins against top tier teams from other conferences.



The middling and bottom SEC teams...

-Bama 14 vs FSU 21 neutral site (FSU 2-3, Bama 4-1 in conference)
-USC 21 @ UNC 15 (UNC 1-3, SC 3-3 in conference)
-KSU 13 @ Auburn 23 (KSU 3-2, AUB 4-2 in conference)
OkState 14 @ UGA 35 (OKS 3-1, Geo 4-2 in conference)
-Mizzou 38 @ Ole Miss 25 (Mizzou 3-1, Ole 0-6 in conference)
-USF 26 @ Auburn 23 (USF 1-2, AUB 4-2 in conference)
-L'ville 34 @ UK 40 (Louisville 2-2, UK 2-3 in conference)
-MSU 13 @ WVU 38 (WV 2-1, MSU 2-3 in conference)
-Cal 45 vs UT 31 (Cal 2-3, Ten 3-2 in conference)

are beating equals at best and are more often than not, losing to comparatively inferior teams. Georgia over Ok State and Auburn over Kansas State are the two best wins for the lower teams in the SEC and that isnt saying much. The best SEC OOC win is LSU/VT and that is completely offset by SEC contenders Bama and Tennessee losing to FSU and Cal. Especially if Bama plays hard against LSU this week.






Originally Posted by MGoBlog
What the hell is going on here? When Mississippi State takes down two supposed contenders, your conference is not good. What real evidence do we have of the SEC dominance that braindead sportswriters and southern yokels proclaim every fall? A brief SEC OOC dossier:

GOOD

LSU crushes VT. Georgia handles Oklahoma State who, yes, lost to Troy but is rounding into a decent Big 12 team. Auburn beats another decent Big 12 team, Kansas State.

LOOKED GOOD BUT UH...

Kentucky beats Louisville. Congratulations. Get in line behind Syracuse.

BAD

Auburn loses to USF. Tennessee is crushed by Cal. Mississippi State, competitive in conference, is obliterated by WVU. South Carolina struggles with awful UNC team. 'Bama loses to thoroughly mediocre FSU.

IRRELEVANT

Ole Miss loses to Mizzou, but they've also lost to every SEC team they've played so no points off.

That is the entire listing of SEC games against BCS competition and it's mostly bad. Mississippi State sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks sucks, sucks and they've beaten Auburn and Kentucky. 3-2 in the SEC Tennessee was crushed by 2-3 in the Pac-10 Cal. 4-1 in the SEC 'Bama lost to 2-3 in the ACC Florida State. So the SEC can suck it.

Florida? Gone. South Carolina? Gone. Kentucky? Gone. None has proven anything except they're mediocre teams in a mediocre conference. LSU takes a hit from this re-evaluation and a two-week span in which schedule strength got pounded with the UK loss, the UF loss, the VT loss, and the back-to-back South Carolina losses.


Interesting thoughts.........I don't agree with everything it's just interesting

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Good Read and interesting facts... Im not disputing that some years there are better conferences than the SEC. BUT, year in and year out, the SEC is the deepest conference, hands down. Sure there have been some years when the B10 and B12 have been better, but deeper? I dont know...

You consistantly get more top 25 teams at the end of the year from the SEC than any other conference.

By the end of the regular season. NOT including their conference championship.
7 out of 12 of LSU regular games are against TOP 20 opponents.

While the #1 ranked team in the country... OSU plays 1 ranked opponent with NO conference championship, Michigan. You can argue that "well they were ranked when they played them", but they arent now.
While the SEC still has 7 top 25 teams that will more than likely finish in the TOP 25, AND a pretty good Kentucky team who BEAT LSU and isnt ranked anymore.

Im not dogging the other conferences but I am making a point that the SEC year in and year out has the most grueling schedule.

Obviously this is the way things are unfolding THIS year... It might not be that way next year, but I bet if you go back to 98 - present. No conference has more Top 25 finishes than the SEC.

The funny thing about this year has been all the upsets. Yes LSU losing to kentucky was an upset, but thats SEC football. Homefield advantage is HUGE. But the SEC is the only conference that hasnt taken the huge Swells that everyone else has taken.

Am I wrong?