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Old 08-26-2006, 03:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thnx, I will read up on avandia , and metformin.
They are glucose disposal agents. People with typeII diabetes are sometimes prescribed these.
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thats scares me, I already have that from HGH.
[quote]SIDE EFFECTS AND PRECAUTIONS Avandia has been shown to cause mild to moderate accumulation of fluid (edema) The most common side effects with metformin are bloating,[quote]
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It is true enough that Avandia and Actos can cause some edema. It can cause some fluid accumulation around the heart as well ... not something that you want to deal with unless necessary.

I have been prescribed and use both of these classes of drugs. The things you have mentioned are certainly accurate. When on Avandia or Actos, I have to watch edema, and in particular feeling just rotten and short of breath. When that happens, a couple of few days off and it gets better. With metformin (glucophage), the thing is that it can and a lot of times does really jack around with your intestinal tract ... gas, bloating, diarrea, etc. are things that can happen.

In any case, my suggestion would be to try to avoid situations requiring such a radical action as these class of drugs. If you avoid high glycemic index carbs, and instead opt for the smoother, longer burning carbs, you will not have such a jump in BG levels. Using potassium based alpha lipoic acid, glucose tolerance factor chromium, and cinammon daily will help keep your BG levels in check along with watching the timing of carbs in your diet.

Since you are trying to refuel your muscles after a long endurance event, as already mentioned utilizing your HGH early in the day with a protein/fat meal, and then using insulin with some simple carbs post event will recharge your muscles the best.

If you do notice that your BG levels just won't stay within reason, then that is the time to consider Avandia, Actos, or Glucophage. In most cases, just the OTC supps mentioned and careful consideration of diet will be sufficient to keep that from being necessary ... the exception being if you have a strong genetic tendency toward hyperglycemia and type II (the problem in my case).
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Great info RedBaron :awesomewo
I'm using GTF chromium, and cinammon daily. I quit using potassium based alpha lipoic acid because I read where it was shown to store more nutrients in fat than muscle.
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