A Cycle Example - HGH + LR3 + Slin + T3

[miniracer26]

Red barron I need to ask you a q? I cannot pm you so please contact me.

[Mallet]

I think the t3 is a bit high, there is evidence that taking more than 50mcgs/day while on GH will have a negative effect on igfbp's. I would think 12.5-25mcgs/day would be sufficient.

[RedBaron]

Originally Posted by Mallet

I think the t3 is a bit high, there is evidence that taking more than 50mcgs/day while on GH will have a negative effect on igfbp's. I would think 12.5-25mcgs/day would be sufficient.

In general I agree. That is the intent of what I tried to convey in the original post.

The thought with the higher weeks of T3 were only as a consideration for those in need of fat loss, and with the disclaimer that it should only be undertaken with adequate AAS support to avoid loss of lean tissue, and on the weeks that LR3 IGF-1 is included in the cycle. Since LR3 IGF-1 is specifically engineered to avoid being bound to BP's, even in the presence of increased BP's for those weeks the overall effect of the cycle shouldn't be impacted. That is why the the cycle was engineered with a lowering of the dose of HGH and the addition of LR3 at the same time as the ramp up-down with T3.

Certainly if this is a bulker or fat loss is not a consideration, then 12.5 mcgs of T3 is definitely adequate. Doses of T3 above 50mcgs a day without LR3 and sufficient AAS support will result in increased binding proteins and potential lean tissue loss with the fat loss.

[Mallet]

That makes sense, i looked over the post again and see what your saying. I guess i missed the overlap of LR3 for the four weeks of high doses of t3 in the hypothetical cycle you laid out. And it's fair to say that when your cycling GH and LR3 together there isn't the same concern with igfbp's like there is with running GH alone or the original igf that wasn't LR3.

I also like that you pointed out specific GH timing, i've been preaching for years about taking GH at 8:00am and again at 2:00pm when cortisol is at it's peak, also potentially not effecting your own Nocturnal release...whereas people have been stating that GH is best taken before bed because that's when your body produces it's greatest spurts naturally, this would be fine if your were seriously GH deficient, but for the sake of BB'ing or anti-aging daytime is best.

Thanx.

Originally Posted by RedBaron

In general I agree. That is the intent of what I tried to convey in the original post.

The thought with the higher weeks of T3 were only as a consideration for those in need of fat loss, and with the disclaimer that it should only be undertaken with adequate AAS support to avoid loss of lean tissue, and on the weeks that LR3 IGF-1 is included in the cycle. Since LR3 IGF-1 is specifically engineered to avoid being bound to BP's, even in the presence of increased BP's for those weeks the overall effect of the cycle shouldn't be impacted. That is why the the cycle was engineered with a lowering of the dose of HGH and the addition of LR3 at the same time as the ramp up-down with T3.

Certainly if this is a bulker or fat loss is not a consideration, then 12.5 mcgs of T3 is definitely adequate. Doses of T3 above 50mcgs a day without LR3 and sufficient AAS support will result in increased binding proteins and potential lean tissue loss with the fat loss.

[stone14]

Originally Posted by RedBaron

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IMPORTANT / CRITICAL - Post Insulin Nutrition
Immediately after Humalog injection – do the following
• Injection + 5 minutes – drink shake with 10g glutamine / 10g creatine / 55g dextrose (7 grams per IU of Insulin)
• Injection + 15 minutes – drink shake with 80g of whey isolate protein in water
• Injection + 60 – 75 minutes – eat a protein / carb meal with 40-50g of protein, 40-50g of carbs, NO FATS (you may wish to add another whey isolate protein drink with this meal)
Avoid fats for 2-3 hours for Humalog IM, 3-4 hours for Humalog subQ, 4-5 hours for Humulin-R.
keep some glucose tablets or other simple carbs on hand (Orange Juice, Full sugar Coke, etc.) for the active window of your insulin. Hypo symptoms can and will hit hard and fast and you will have little time to react. This is the main danger of insulin use. Be ready.


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i am using slin pwo with my cycle (1000mg testew + 400mg deca ew) is it ok to use this post slin nutrition plan with my slin, im using novorapid.

i normally take my isolate with my carbs imediatly after my slin shot, will the way you have stated be better? why split the carbs and protein shakes?

[RedBaron]

Originally Posted by stone14

i normally take my isolate with my carbs imediatly after my slin shot, will the way you have stated be better? why split the carbs and protein shakes?

It really isn't a big deal one way or the other. The timing works out really well as in the example, and for me it puts a slight bit of space between otherwise having to drink a pretty hefty bit all at once. Beyond those things, together as you do it works just fine. Really just boils down to personal preference.

[pluto36]

how much will this hgh, IGH, Insulin cycle run me money wise?

[pluto36]

how much will the hgh, IFG-1, and insulin cycle run me money wise?

[waleedy2k]

hello,
if i use T3 along with GH, do I have to consider taking thyroid support suppliment along the cycle of T3 of I should take the thyroid support as a post cycle therapy?

thanks,
p.s. what does AAS mean?

[RedBaron]

Originally Posted by waleedy2k

hello,
if i use T3 along with GH, do I have to consider taking thyroid support suppliment along the cycle of T3 of I should take the thyroid support as a post cycle therapy?

thanks,
p.s. what does AAS mean?

You would want to take the suggested thyroid support suppliments at the conclusion of your T3 portion of the cycle, to aid in a quicker recovery of your own endogenous T3 levels. Actually, starting them a bit before the end of the administration of T3 ... while you are tapering down (assuming that is your plan), that way the suppliments are doing all they can do for you by the time your T3 cycle is over.

AAS = Anabolic Androgenic Steroid. It is a general acronym for all steroids.